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cross-posted from: https://mander.xyz/post/49700074

On Mastodon, if you have an account on instance X, you can follow someone who is on instance Y. It creates a connection: X -> Y. If there are a lot of such follows, weight of this edge will increase, attractive force between points will be higher.

Original explanation on the page of Kaggle dataset:

“active users” graphs: For each instance, we consider the set of the 10K most recently active users. Then, for each user of an instance X, we consider the list of the users they follow, and add 1 to the edge from X to Y where Y is the instance the followed users. The weight of the edge from X to Y thus encodes how much the content seen on instance X is generated in instance Y. Note that this graph thus contains self loops.

I’ve tried to layout this dataset in Gephi, but it was a classic hairy ball - everyone is connected to everyone, amount of edges is too high comparing to number of nodes. Then, I’ve filtered out all EN instances and suddenly got a meaningful picture:

graph:https://mander.xyz/pictrs/image/70c032cc-1c21-48e5-8bd6-73f8f9ae6f3b.png

What can we see? If English-speaking instances are ignored, German, French and Japanese languages are most common across Mastodon. Japan and Korea don’t hang around much with other folks, while French, German and Spanish instances are quite interconnected between each other.

Size of nodes depends on centrality, post about centrality of Peertube instances is here.

https://mander.xyz/pictrs/image/6c20305a-593b-44ba-bc0d-42f5b129d173.jpeg Gephi table:https://mander.xyz/pictrs/image/3c0331e0-be95-40a9-bc1b-235cdd72ec82.png

Same, but Fruchterman-Reingold algorithm instead of ForceAtlas 2:

FR:https://mander.xyz/pictrs/image/1566c8e4-e15a-4ce6-96d9-86042df55efd.jpeg

Mastodon active users dataset can be downloaded here: https://www.kaggle.com/datasets/marcdamie/fediverse-graph-dataset-reduced

False, this is the blue donut of eve online.

that works! thanks pal

Takeaways:

• All-Time MAU Peak (in last 7 Days): Peertube
  
• Funkwhale 2.0 doesn’t appear to be having a significant impact boosting their MAU
  
• Loops continues to decline (4.8k MAU), now less than 2x their pre-January boost numbers (2.6k MAU)
  
• Middling negative week for the threadiverse
  
• Middling positive week overall for the Fediverse (bolstered by Mastodon and Peertube)
  

Monthly Active Users^[1]^:
| Software | Current | Yesterday[1D] | Last Week[7D] | Last Month[30D] | 3 Months Ago[90D] | 6 Months Ago[180D] | 1 Year Ago[365D] | All-Time Maximum |
| :——– | ——-: | ——-: | ——-: | ——-: | ——-: | ——-: | ——-: | ——-: |
| Piefed | 5285 | 5284 | 5796 | 5931 | 1937 | 1791 | 352 | 6179 |
| Lemmy | 36803 | 36817 | 37098 | 39104 | 34989 | 37490 | 54994 | 72618 |
| Mbin | 740 | 740 | 756 | 823 | 704 | 819 | 879 | 3967 |
| Threadiverse | 42828 | 42841 | 43650 | 45858 | 37630 | 40100 | 56225 | |
| | | | | | | | | |
| Mastodon | 761307 | 723429 | 757827 | 791555 | 684378 | 697388 | 875239 | 2737163 |
| Pixelfed | 106671 | 106552 | 106764 | 114921 | 69962 | 114027 | 139474 | 338813 |
| Peertube | 45477 | 45513 | 43799 | 41296 | 27589 | 24608 | 35279 | 45513 |
| Loops | 4769 | 4854 | 5701 | 8658 | 2206 | 26575 | 0 | 29821 |
| Bookwyrm | 1706 | 1695 | 1733 | 1619 | 2908 | 2919 | 8747 | 9429 |
| Friendica | 2502 | 2509 | 2469 | 2660 | 1296 | 1691 | 3454 | 4734 |
| Forgejo | 131 | 133 | 115 | 122 | 539 | 390 | 489 | 1168 |
| Funkwhale | 290 | 290 | 302 | 270 | 191 | 238 | 429 | 1114 |
| Flohmarkt | 26 | 23 | 20 | 24 | 18 | 0 | 0 | 40 |
| | | | | | | | | |
| Fediverse | 965707 | 927839 | 962380 | 1006983 | 826717 | 907936 | 1119336 | |

Difference^[1]^:
| Software | -1 Day[1D] | -1 Week[7D] | -1 Month[30D] | -3 Months[90D] | -6 Months[180D] | -1 Year[365D] | -All-Time Maximum |
| :——– | ——-: | ——-: | ——-: | ——-: | ——-: | ——-: | ——-: |
| Piefed | 1 | -511 | -646 | 3348 | 3494 | 4933 | -894 |
| Lemmy | -14 | -295 | -2301 | 1814 | -687 | -18191 | -35815 |
| Mbin | 0 | -16 | -83 | 36 | -79 | -139 | -3227 |
| Threadiverse | -13 | -822 | -3030 | 5198 | 2728 | -13397 | |
| | | | | | | | |
| Mastodon | 37878 | 3480 | -30248 | 76929 | 63919 | -113932 | -1975856 |
| Pixelfed | 119 | -93 | -8250 | 36709 | -7356 | -32803 | -232142 |
| Peertube | -36 | 1678 | 4181 | 17888 | 20869 | 10198 | -36 |
| Loops | -85 | -932 | -3889 | 2563 | -21806 | 0 | -25052 |
| Bookwyrm | 11 | -27 | 87 | -1202 | -1213 | -7041 | -7723 |
| Friendica | -7 | 33 | -158 | 1206 | 811 | -952 | -2232 |
| Forgejo | -2 | 16 | 9 | -408 | -259 | -358 | -1037 |
| Funkwhale | 0 | -12 | 20 | 99 | 52 | -139 | -824 |
| Flohmarkt | 3 | 6 | 2 | 8 | 0 | 0 | -14 |
| | | | | | | | |
| Fediverse | 37868 | 3327 | -41276 | 138990 | 57771 | -153629 | |

Change (%)^[1]^:
| Software | -1 Day[1D] | -1 Week[7D] | -1 Month[30D] | -3 Months[90D] | -6 Months[180D] | -1 Year[365D] | -All-Time Maximum |
| :——– | ——-: | ——-: | ——-: | ——-: | ——-: | ——-: | ——-: |
| Piefed | 0.0% | -8.8% | -10.9% | 172.8% | 195.1% | 1401.4% | -14.5% |
| Lemmy | -0.0% | -0.8% | -5.9% | 5.2% | -1.8% | -33.1% | -49.3% |
| Mbin | 0.0% | -2.1% | -10.1% | 5.1% | -9.6% | -15.8% | -81.3% |
| Threadiverse | -0.0% | -1.9% | -6.6% | 13.8% | 6.8% | -23.8% | |
| | | | | | | | |
| Mastodon | 5.2% | 0.5% | -3.8% | 11.2% | 9.2% | -13.0% | -72.2% |
| Pixelfed | 0.1% | -0.1% | -7.2% | 52.5% | -6.5% | -23.5% | -68.5% |
| Peertube | -0.1% | 3.8% | 10.1% | 64.8% | 84.8% | 28.9% | -0.1% |
| Loops | -1.8% | -16.3% | -44.9% | 116.2% | -82.1% | 0.0% | -84.0% |
| Bookwyrm | 0.6% | -1.6% | 5.4% | -41.3% | -41.6% | -80.5% | -81.9% |
| Friendica | -0.3% | 1.3% | -5.9% | 93.1% | 48.0% | -27.6% | -47.1% |
| Forgejo | -1.5% | 13.9% | 7.4% | -75.7% | -66.4% | -73.2% | -88.8% |
| Funkwhale | 0.0% | -4.0% | 7.4% | 51.8% | 21.8% | -32.4% | -74.0% |
| Flohmarkt | 13.0% | 30.0% | 8.3% | 44.4% | 0.0% | 0.0% | -35.0% |
| | | | | | | | |
| Fediverse | 4.1% | 0.3% | -4.1% | 16.8% | 6.4% | -13.7% | |

Tracker Comparison^[1,2]^:
| Software | Fediverse-Observer^[1]^ | FediDB ^[2]^ |
| :——– | ——-: | ——-: |
| Piefed | 5285 | 5591 |
| Lemmy | 36803 | 47763 |
| Mbin | 740 | 1349 |
| Threadiverse | 42828 | 54703 |
| | | |
| Mastodon | 761307 | 1002327 |
| Pixelfed | 106671 | 111005 |
| Peertube | 45477 | 41263 |
| Loops | 4769 | 4844 |
| Bookwyrm | 1706 | 3922 |
| Friendica | 2502 | 3244 |
| Forgejo | 131 | 1414 |
| Funkwhale | 290 | 757 |
| | | |
| Fediverse | 965707 | 1223479 |

• Source: [1] Fediverse-Observer, [2] FediDB
  

Notes:

1. Threadiverse is Piefed, Lemmy, and Mbin. Fediverse only accounts for listed software [12], not the other [117] software tracked by Fediverse-Observer.
2. Fediverse-Observer provides daily MAU back to 20221130. FediDB only provides a current snapshot (snapshot within the last 15 minutes, no time series data) and only tracks some of the software [67].
3. FediDB seems to use unclear math to get there counts and overestimate the MAU on most software (see previous post, if interested in learning more).
   

I’ve heard in the past that Lemmy, Piefed, and Mbin devs talk to each other about how to implement features.

So, I’m hopefully it’s interoperable, but have no real information to go on that it will/would be.

Did a quick search through Piefed’s code repository. I don’t see community migration, but they are working on instance migration (Lemmy instance could become a Piefed instance).

Interesting.

instance migration (Lemmy instance could become a Piefed instance)

So 2 possibilities: a Lemmy community could migrate to a Piefed server, or a Lemmy server could become a Piefed server.

Makes sense that both should be possible. As I understand it, both fit the forum paradigm (or whatever the term is) of ActivityPub.

What’s important to me (and I’d argue for the fediverse too) is that we limit the amount of fragmentation and splintering and forking and egos in all this.

I’ll be totally honest and say that I don’t trust Evan (for reasons I’m not getting into), and I’m not sure why we need “hashtags with extra steps,” but I’d like to get opinions from people who are smarter than I am about this stuff.

Hashtags-as-a-service isnt new thinking, but tags.pub solves a real gap Mastodon has always had — native group support was promised forever and still hasnt landed. The problem is hashtags fragment across instances. Tags.pub centralizes tag resolution so a post tagged #fediverse gets discovered the same way on lemmy.world or a small microblog. Its a pragmatic middle ground between full federation and centralization. Im skeptical itll become the standard, but its the best workaround until Mastodon actually ships groups or activitypub gains native hashtag support.

I don’t know. Last I saw was a PR languishing for years.

No, you are sharing the section of the post where they point out the actions of a big brother state

Algorithms are the real story here, not platforms. A fediverse server can run the same recommendation engines that optimize for engagement over substance. What I care about is building systems where disagreement actually gets preserved, not hidden behind engagement-optimization. That is why I am mapping public opinion through email responses—people can take time to think before they write. No feeds. No virality incentives. Just substance.

Hey all, feel free to delete if sharing YT videos isn’t permitted, but I made a video on the Fediverse last week and specifically talking about Mastodon, Lemmy, Pixelfed, and Peertube.

Just thought I’d share in case anyone wanders by and wants an overview.

politically intense

PieFed is good about being able to easily filter that stuff out, it’s better than Lemmy, it even asks if you want that when you signup

PeerTube is pretty underwhelming for now…but since you already have the content, it’d be easy for you to start posting there. The more people who post, the less underwhelming it will be.

Profiles are the primary way for people using Mastodon to ‘meet’ one another on a deeper level – beyond a threaded conversation or search results. You might have noticed that the overall design of Profiles hasn’t been explored in a while, and in the meantime, we’ve heard requests and challenges from people who use Mastodon every day.

The profile redesign supports some of our current priorities:

Make the Fediverse Intuitive. We want people who are new to Mastodon and the Fediverse to be able to discover and connect with interesting accounts, without having to understand the details of decentralisation. The new Profiles view includes an updated handle explainer, and a new editing experience delivers a more consistent, unified experience across web and native mobile apps.
A Home for Everyone. As well as individuals, Mastodon is also home to organisations (NGOs, local governments, software projects, etc) that want to share news and interact with their communities. The layout changes offer us a solid starting point from which to explore features that will help these “institutional users” to make their most out of their presence in the Fediverse.

ooh facebooky

Authentication friction is exactly the kind of invisible barrier that kills adoption. New users click a link and suddenly they are at a different server without warning. That is not just confusing, it is a fundamental UX failure.

really ? as a longer term Masto user id rather they stayed there.. Anyone still using X for example has already taken an indefensible stance.