It’s literally just a number admins can use to sus out if a user might potentially be a toll. It’s basically reddit karma but hidden from everyone but admins.
Then make it a clear, public figure. Make it transparent.
Why? It’s an admin tool.
Users overall don’t want karma farming accounts.
Reddit Karma is not good, I don’t want a Karma system on the Fediverse. That was one of the worst things about Reddit. Karma is essentially ass-kissing points, you get them for kissing ass, and you loose them for making people butt-hurt.
I can’t support that, it creates nasty psychological patterns that make people prone to siding with popularity and not with what’s right.
You dont have a karma system on the fediverse, only admins can see it.
Individuals dont know what their score is, there is no benefit to them trying to farm it because they cant see or use it.
This is the most overblown criticism of piefed around.
Because this is Lemmy, the whole point for me at least when decentralized, democratized; making non-privacy based knowledge exclusive to the effective elites goes against that principle to me. Perhaps that’s not why you’re here, but it does matter to me. It’s the same reason I think the Modlog is a vital part of the Lemmy appeal; more transparency with users as community members, not just customers.
It’s a score that is controlled by other people, which causes restrictions if it gets too low.
It’s moderation by popularity. I can’t and won’t support that.
There is nothing “democratised” about Lemmy. No where in the software does it support that any more Reddit does. It still relies on admins and mods making decisions.
The only thing on offer is decentralised content aggregation.
And why would you want karma farming accounts? They were the worst part of the reddit experience.
I did not argue for karma, I argued that if karma exists, it should be public. I am at least equally happy with such score not existing for Piefed admins either.
It causes zero restrictions if it gets too low, all that happens is admins see a red ! next to a username.
Every account has a Social Credit Score, you concede that.
If your account has less than 100 Social Credit Score and is newly created, you are not considered “trustworthy” and there are limitations placed on what your account can do.
If your Social Credit Score is at -10 you cannot downvote, you can’t create new DMs and It flags your account automatically like this:
PieFed uses a hard coded list to rank an instances’ defederation list for its quality. If an instance doesn’t defederate from what Rimu decided the instances stated quality goes down.
I think piefed’s biggest proponents lie about this because it is one of the more unappealing aspects of piefed, and there isn’t really a way to sugarcoat it. Social credit score based on the votes of others is just a shitty way of running a social platform.
Humans as social creatures already have innate fear of social rejection, and Karma/Social Credit systems on platforms that punish rejection just feed that dark pattern even more aggressively. It’s really not something I would elect to use after going through Reddit’s version of Karma. Especially because Piefed’s is ever more conditional (they can blacklist communities from counting towards your score positively but you still lose score points from those communities).
Why do you tankies always lie
It was the “tankies” reporting on PieFed’s social credit score system, Deceptichum is attacking the “tankie” position. In fact, it was because the communists started talking about PieFed’s social engineering that this drama even kicked off.
I think they know that, they are using their pro-DPRK account.
Why do you tankies always lie
Amazing, I never thought I would see the day Deceptichum was called a tankie, lmao.
tankies are not a monolith there are lemmy tankies but not all look at how successful lemmy.world is after all piefed is tankie software because of the Social Credit Score and there are more piefed tankie shills
just going to copy this since you and cowbee are the same
tankies are not a monolith there are lemmy tankies but not all look at how successful lemmy.world is after all piefed is tankie software because of the Social Credit Score and there are more piefed tankie shills
Why do you tankies always lie
Why do I keep running into people calling others “tankies” who are very explicitly anti-“tankie?”
So rare to see such a pure form of “Everything I don’t like is tankies”
