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I know nobody at Netbird will see this but I just finished setting up netbird via podman quadlets with traefik and its absolutely amazing!! I was using headscale before. I’m getting near at home speeds and I’m using the stun server as I can’t get a direct connection because of firewalls. The dashboard and documentation is mint and I can’t thank the people at netbird enough for the recent huge update that makes setting it up so much easier.

Next to my Home Assistant this is my second favourite and important piece in my homelab.

This is why I love open source!

Thank you!!

What made you switch to it over tailscale+headscale? Currently that’s been doing everything I need without issue.

I could never get the self hosted stun server to connect so I was always using tailscales derp servers. Netbjrd is also full opensource as far as I know so that was the main reason I wanted to switch.

Hey, first I’m hearing about Netbird. Sounds amazing. How complicated was it to migrate from taliscale to netbird? I might need to do the same

If you were using derp servers with Tailscale/Headscale, that would explain why it was slow.

Simple and Secure Remote Access

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Currently ditching netbird because the Android implementation kills the battery and it makes it unusable.

I wish they would fix it, it’s been an issue for quite some time

I tried moving from tailscale to netbird, and while I did get access to my home assistant instance, I got unauthorized errors when trying to load mini graph cards on my dashboard. Instead of tinkering I went back to tailscale - at least for now.

so this is a tailscale alternative, right?

I actually had the opposite and the tailscale app would drain my battery when using one of my exit nodes. I will say the netbird app needs some love. My biggest issue is that it doesn’t stay connected or is able to reconnect when I change WiFi networks or go from WiFi to cellular.

Oh yeah I know. I’m mostly only able to use deep servers and that’s why I switched because j wanted to be able to use my own deep server and not have to rely on tailscales.

FWIW, you can use Headscale’s embedded DERP server, or host your own. They need a STUN port and an HTTPS port

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

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Whats wrong with running both and tinkering on netbird till you fix it?

Try Jetbird, it solved the connection issues for me, but drained the battery similarly for me

Oh, I’ve been using Headscale so this combination interests me. I just took a brief look at their READMEs, but don’t understand how they work together, and maybe the combination isn’t popular enough for a guide for the integration. Can you explain a bit on how they work together?

Yeah they overlap quite a bit.

Ip addresses. Netbird uses the same ip when external, while tailscale has a different internal one. So I need to reconfigure the home assistant client differently for each.

It was relatively easy once I figured out that netbird doesn’t support a wildcard certificate. They just released and update that fixed that and they now support subdomains. I also do still have headscale as a backup if I need it.