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How do you effectively backup your high (20+ TB) local NAS?

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https://lemmy.world/u/NekoKoneko posted on Feb 26, 2026 15:26

I have a 56 TB local Unraid NAS that is parity protected against single drive failure, and while I think a single drive failing and being parity recovered covers data loss 95% of the time, I’m always concerned about two drives failing or a site-/system-wide disaster that takes out the whole NAS.

For other larger local hosters who are smarter and more prepared, what do you do? Do you sync it off site? How do you deal with cost and bandwidth needs if so? What other backup strategies do you use?

(Sorry if this standard scenario has been discussed - searching didn’t turn up anything.)

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https://lemmy.ca/u/Shadow posted on Feb 26, 2026 15:29
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I don’t. Of my 120tb, I only care about the 4tb of personal data and I push that to a cloud backup. The rest can just be downloaded again.

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https://lemmy.world/u/NekoKoneko posted on Feb 26, 2026 15:32
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Do you have logs or software that keeps track of what you need to redownload? A big stress for me with that method is remembering or keeping track of what is lost when I and software can’t even see the filesystem anymore.

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https://sopuli.xyz/u/Sibbo posted on Feb 26, 2026 15:34
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If you can’t remember what you lost, did you really need it to begin with?

Unless it’s personal memories of course.

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https://lemmy.world/u/OR3X posted on Feb 26, 2026 15:37
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So you have 56TB of total storage, but how much of that 56TB is actually used? Take the amount of storage used and add 10-12% to that figure. Now you create a new NAS (preferably off-site) with that amount of storage and that becomes your backup target. Take an initial backup (locally if possible to speed up the process) and then you can use something like rsync to create incremental backups going forward. This is the method I’ve used and so far it has worked out well. I target 10-12% more than the amount of used storage for my backup capacity because my storage use grows reasonably slowly. If your usage grows faster you might want to increase your “buffer” a little more so that you’re not having to constantly add drives to your backup target.

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https://piefed.social/u/Yorick posted on Feb 26, 2026 15:37
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I have 2 500GB SSDs in RAID1 for important data, truenas apps etc…, then 32TB total in RAIDZ1 for large Dataset that won’t need speed (movies, TV show, music, pictures, archives,…)

If I have a complete NAS failure, a remote backup (via rsync to a friend’s NAS Weekly) of the SSD and bootable drive can be used in a new system, and my torrent app has the list and magnet of all torrents stored on the SSD so it can re-download them.

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https://lemmy.world/u/kurotora posted on Feb 26, 2026 15:40
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In my case, for Linux ISOs, is only needed to login in my usual private trackers and re-download my leeched torrents. For more niche content, like old school TV shows in local language, I would rely in the community. For even more niche content, like tankoubons only available at the time on DD services, I have a specific job but also relying in the same back up provider that I’m using for personal data.

Also, as it’s important to remind to everyone, you must encrypt your backup no matter where you store it.

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https://lemmy.ml/u/ShortN0te posted on Feb 26, 2026 15:42
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That should be part of the backup configuration. You select in the backup tool of choice what you backup. When you poose your array then you download that stuff again?

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https://palaver.p3x.de/u/hendrik posted on Feb 26, 2026 15:45
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I follow a similar strategy. I back up my important stuff. And I’m gonna have to re-rip my DVD collection and redownload the Linux ISOs in the unlikely case the RAID falls apart.

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https://lemmy.world/u/NekoKoneko posted on Feb 26, 2026 15:46
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Yeah, this is certainly a viable “brute-force”-ish ooption. While I have 56, I’m only using 26 or so. But I’d actually be hesitant to do anything less than a full capacity mirror because I do expect to eventually use this (and more - adding drives to Unraid).

I’ve balked because of cost and upkeep (maintaining the same capacity, additional chances for drive failure, two separate sites I need physical access to with a high bandwidth connection), so I admit I was hoping I was missing an easier option.

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https://lemmy.world/u/NekoKoneko posted on Feb 26, 2026 15:49
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For me, I have a bad memory. I might remember a childhood movie (a nickname I give to special Linux ISOs) that I hadn’t even thought of for 10 years and track down a copy, sometimes excavating obscure sources, and that may be hours of one-time inspiration and work repeated many times over. Having a complete list is a good helper, but a full backup of course is best.

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https://piefed.ca/u/iamthetot posted on Feb 26, 2026 15:50
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The stuff that I actually care about are automatically backed up twice, once to a simple external on site and once to a cloud. The cloud rotates between the most recent backups so it never takes up more than 1tb compressed, while the local external keeps backups for much longer (something like 6tb at a time).

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https://lemmy.decronym.xyz/u/Decronym posted on Feb 26, 2026 15:51
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Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
NAS Network-Attached Storage
RAID Redundant Array of Independent Disks for mass storage
SSD Solid State Drive mass storage

[Thread #119 for this comm, first seen 26th Feb 2026, 15:50] [FAQ] [Full list] [Contact] [Source code]

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https://lemmy.world/u/givesomefucks posted on Feb 26, 2026 15:54
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I only care about the 4tb of personal data and I push that to a cloud backup

I have doubles of the data. Some of ‘em. That way I know I have a pristine one in backup. Then I can use it, it gets corrupted, I don’t care.

Actually, I have triples of the W2s. I have triples, right? If I don’t, the other stuff’s not true.

See, the W2s the one I have triples of. Oh, no, actually, I also have triples of the kids photos, too. But just those two. And your dad and I are the same age, and I’m rich and I have triples of the W2s and the kids photos.

Triples makes it safe.

Triples is best.

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https://sopuli.xyz/u/MentalEdge posted on Feb 26, 2026 16:04
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Recently helped someone get set up with backblaze B2 using Kopia, which turned out fairly affordable. It compresses and de-duplicates leading to very little storage use, and it encrypts so that Backblaze can’t read the data.

Kopia connects to it directly. To restore, you just install Kopia again and enter the same connection credentials to access the backup repository.

My personal solution is a second NAS off-site, which periodically wakes up and connects to mine via VPN, during that window Kopia is set to update my backups.

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https://lemmy.world/u/Brkdncr posted on Feb 26, 2026 16:08
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Backup to 2nd nas.

Important stuff gets backed up to cloud storage. Whatever is cheapest.

In my case Synology c2 cloud was cheapest.

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https://lemmy.world/u/OR3X posted on Feb 26, 2026 16:09
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I mean, if you want a full mirror, rolling your own backup target is going to be the cheapest option even with the current high price of hardware. Other options are cloud storage, or using another media like tape. Cloud storage is of course an on going cost which rules it out for me, not to mention privacy concerns. There are certain “cold storage” options from cloud storage hosts which are considerably cheaper but they have limitations on how the data can be accessed and how often. The tape route is possible but it’s not really viable for home use due to the high upfront cost of the drives. Outside of that, backing up a subset of your storage as others have suggested is the only other option. Creating viable backups without breaking the bank is a challenge as old as computers, unfortunately.

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https://lemmy.cafe/u/Onomatopoeia posted on Feb 26, 2026 16:16
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I can’t remember the name of an excel spreadsheet I created years ago, which has continually matured with lots of changes. I often have to search for it off the many I have for different purposes.

Trusting your memory is a naive, amateur approach.

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https://hachyderm.io/users/ClickyMcTicker posted on Feb 26, 2026 16:17
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@NekoKoneko A second system in a secure local with minimal redundancy that can *PULL* backup data from your production environment at a rate fast enough to keep up.

In my case, production is a many node Ceph cluster with flash storage and my backup is a single server loaded with big hard drives in a locked room at work (with approval). Both my house and work have fiber. The backup server pulls data from my production cluster on a regular basis using rsnapshot. It does use RAIDZ1 so I can run my hard drives until they fail without losing backups, but especially because it would take a massive amount of time to rebuild the backup server should I need to do so from scratch.

If you have a large catalog of Linux ISOs downloaded via torrent, I might recommend keeping a (backed up) folder containing the old torrent files, that way you can just download them from the source again should you lose everything. Let the community be your backup on those.

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https://discuss.tchncs.de/u/Bishma posted on Feb 26, 2026 16:20
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Like others, I have a 2 tier system.

About 2TB of my NAS is critical files. Those get sent via Hyperbackup to cloud storage on at least a weekly basis, some daily. The other 16TB I have get sync’d (again with hyperbackup, but not a scheduled backup task) to a 20TB external drive roughly once per quarter. Then that drive lives on the closet of a family member.

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https://lemmy.ca/u/i_stole_ur_taco posted on Feb 26, 2026 16:20
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Set up a job to write the file names of everything in your file system to a text file and make sure that text file gets backed up. I did that on my Unraid server for years in lieu of fully backing up the whole array.

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https://lemmy.world/u/Konraddo posted on Feb 26, 2026 16:22
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Similar to most responses, I backup whatever I created myself, not shared by someone or downloaded from somewhere. I care about pictures that I took, documents, financial records, etc, which don’t take up much space at all.

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https://lemmy.zip/u/frongt posted on Feb 26, 2026 16:29
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So you do remember that you have several frequently-used spreadsheets.

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https://sh.itjust.works/u/whyNotSquirrel posted on Feb 26, 2026 16:37
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servarr* and jellyfin are managing my movies and tv-shows

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https://moist.catsweat.com/u/originalucifer posted on Feb 26, 2026 16:42
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entire nas (~24TB used) is replicated to another nas in another building (2 actually). i like having 3 copies.

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https://lemmy.ml/u/BakedCatboy posted on Feb 26, 2026 16:54
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Same here, ~30TB currently but my personal artifacts portion is only like 2TB, which is very affordable with rsync.net, which conveniently has an alerts setting if more than X kb hasn’t changed in Y days. (I have my Synology set up to spit out daily security reports to meet that amount, so even if I don’t change anything myself I won’t get bugged)

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https://lemmy.ml/u/BakedCatboy posted on Feb 26, 2026 16:55
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My *arrstack DBs are part of my backed up portion, so they’ll remember what I have downloaded in my non-backed up portion.

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https://lemmy.world/u/NekoKoneko posted on Feb 26, 2026 17:05
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The Backblaze option is something I’ve seriously considered.

Any reason this person didn’t go with the $99/year personal backup plan? It says “unlimited” and it is for my household only, but maybe I’m missing something about how difficult it is to setup on Unraid or other NAS software. B2’s $6/TB/mo rate would put me at $150/mo which is not great.

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https://lemmy.world/u/NekoKoneko posted on Feb 26, 2026 17:07
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Thank you. I think the “folder of torrent files” you and others have said is probably a good failsafe anyway.

I assume the pull requirement is to offload the process resource use as much as possible to the backup system?

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https://lemmy.world/u/NekoKoneko posted on Feb 26, 2026 17:07
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That’s a great point.

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https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/ExcessShiv posted on Feb 26, 2026 17:54
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The key here being that you actually remember the file exists, because it’s important. Some other random spreadsheet you don’t even remember exists because you haven’t needed it since forever is probably not all that important to backup.

If you loose something without ever realizing you lost it, it was not important so there would be no reason to make a backup.

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https://sopuli.xyz/u/MentalEdge posted on Feb 26, 2026 18:04
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They only needed about 500GB.

And personal is for desktop systems. You have to use Backblazes macOS/Windows desktop application, and the setup is not zero-knowledge on Backblazes part. They literally advertise being able to ship you your files on a physical device if need be.

Which some people are ok with, but not what most of us would want.

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https://feddit.it/u/Scrollone posted on Feb 26, 2026 18:05
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You can’t use the $99/year plan for that. The authorized client only works as a desktop application on Windows and MacOS.

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https://lemmy.world/u/worhui posted on Feb 26, 2026 18:05
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Lto tape. But I only have 15tb

It quickly becomes cost effective when you actually need the data to be safe. Far easier to have off site backups. Most of the time my data is static. So I am only backing up projects files ans changes for the most part.

If you have 100+ tb of dynamic data I can’t help there.

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https://lemmy.world/u/Treczoks posted on Feb 26, 2026 18:07
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As someone who has experienced double failure twice in my lifetime, I seriously recommend doing backups.

The problem is that the only serious backup solution is another HDD for this size. A robot array for tapes or worm drives is probably out of budget.

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https://lemmy.world/u/irmadlad posted on Feb 26, 2026 18:26
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I’m not sure if I qualify as a ‘larger local hoster’ but I would go through your 20 TB and decide what really is important enough to backup in case the wheels fall off. Linux ISOs, those can be re-downloaded, although it would take a bit of time. The things that can’t be readily downloaded such as my music collection that I have been accumulating for decades, converted to flac, and meticulously tagged, can’t be re-downloaded. So that is one of my priorities to back up. Pictures, business documents, personal documents, can’t be re-downloaded, so that goes on the ‘must back up’ list….and so on. Just cull out what is and isn’t replaceable. I would bet that once you do that, your 20 TB will be a bit more slim, and you’re not trying to push 20TB up the pipe to a cloud backup.

I use BackBlaze’s Personal, unlimited tier for $99 USD per year, which is a pretty sweet deal. One thing about Backblaze to remember is that the drives being backed up must be physically connected to the PC doing the backup/uploading. I get around that because I have a hot swap bay on my main PC, but there are other methods and software that will masquerade your NAS or other as a physically connected drive.

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https://lemmy.world/u/NekoKoneko posted on Feb 26, 2026 18:26
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Bob Odenkirk has never steered us wrong, thanks. I downloaded three copies of this from YouTube in case I forget.

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https://feddit.dk/u/countstex posted on Feb 26, 2026 18:40
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I use backblaze too, started with the personal back up, but swapped to the B2 solution as it was supported by my NAS. The cost of the actual storage isn’t much, most of the cost is in access, so for data that doesn’t alter much it worked out just as cheap, and easier to do things that way.

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https://piefed.ca/u/cenzorrll posted on Feb 26, 2026 19:01
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You put that with everything else similar into a folder, which is backed up. Mine is called “Files”. If there’s something in there that I don’t need backed up. It still gets backed up. If there’s something very large in there that I don’t need backed up, it gets removed in one of my “oh shit these backups are huge” purges.

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https://lemmy.world/u/irmadlad posted on Feb 26, 2026 19:40
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and easier to do things that way.

I’m cheap and my labor is free. LOL But you do have a point.

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https://discuss.tchncs.de/u/cmnybo posted on Feb 26, 2026 20:36
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Backblaze personal doesn’t support Linux or BSD, so it would be useless for a NAS.

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https://lemmy.net.au/u/FreedomAdvocate posted on Feb 26, 2026 21:00
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I switched to a DAS for my storage and use backblaze to back up all 50TB+. I couldn’t find a cost effective way to do it with a NAS.

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https://lemmy.net.au/u/FreedomAdvocate posted on Feb 26, 2026 21:04
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The cost of B2 storage is very high, what are you talking about? USD$6 per terabyte per month would be like $4k a year for me.

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https://lemmy.net.au/u/FreedomAdvocate posted on Feb 26, 2026 21:09
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You can ship encrypted files you know…..?

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https://sopuli.xyz/u/MentalEdge posted on Feb 26, 2026 21:18
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Yes. Did I suggest otherwise?

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https://lemmy.world/u/irmadlad posted on Feb 26, 2026 21:41
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There are many ways to skin the cat. Here’s just one:

This Docker container runs the Backblaze personal backup client via WINE, so that you can back up your files with the separation and portability capabilities of Docker on Linux.

It runs the Backblaze client and starts a virtual X server and a VNC server with Web GUI, so that you can interact with it.

https://github.com/JonathanTreffler/backblaze-personal-wine-container

There are also other apps that will ‘fool’, for a lack of a better word, Backblaze to think a NAS drive is physically connected.

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https://lemmy.ca/u/danielquinn posted on Feb 26, 2026 21:42
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Honestly, I’d buy 6 external 20tb drives and make 2 copies of your data on it (3 drives each) and then leave them somewhere-safe-but-not-at-home. If you have friends or family able to store them, that’d do, but also a safety deposit box is good.

If you want to make frequent updates to your backups, you could patch them into a Raspberry Pi and put it on Tailscale, then just rsync changes every regularly. Of course means that wherever youre storing the backup needs room for such a setup.

I often wonder why there isn’t a sort of collective backup sharing thing going on amongst self hosters. A sort of “I’ll host your backups if you host mine” sort of thing. Better than paying a cloud provider at any rate.

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https://lemmy.world/u/billwashere posted on Feb 26, 2026 21:53
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With another large NAS.

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https://lemmy.world/u/kaotic posted on Feb 26, 2026 22:11
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Backblaze offers unlimited data on a single computer, $99/year.

There might be some fine print that excludes your setup but might be worth investigating.

https://www.backblaze.com/cloud-backup/pricing

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https://lemmy.zip/u/unit327 posted on Feb 26, 2026 22:31
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only windows (maybe mac)

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https://lemmy.zip/u/three posted on Feb 26, 2026 22:37
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Psst, you missed the point and need to re-read the thread.

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https://lemmy.zip/u/unit327 posted on Feb 26, 2026 22:40
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I use aws s3 deep archive storage class, $0.001 per GB per month. But your upload bandwidth really matters in this case, I only have a subset of the most important things backed up this way otherwise it would take months just to upload a single backup.

I have complicated system where:

  • borgmatic backups happen daily, locally
  • those backups are stored on a btrfs subvolume
  • a python script will make a read-only snapshot of that volume once a week
  • the snapshot is synced to s3 using rclone with –checksum –no-update-modtime
  • once the upload is complete the btrfs snapshot is deleted

I’ve also set up encryption in rclone so that all the data is encrypted an unreadable by aws.

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https://feddit.uk/u/Cyber posted on Feb 26, 2026 23:12
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In a different location

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https://feddit.uk/u/Cyber posted on Feb 26, 2026 23:21
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What’s your recovery needs?

It’s ok to take 6 months to backup to a cloud provider, but do you need all your data to be recovered in a short period of time? If so, cloud isn’t the solution, you’d need a duplicate set of drives nearby (but not close enough for the same flood, fire, etc.

But, if you’re ok waiting for the data to download again (and check the storage provider costs for that specific scenario), then your main factor is how much data changes after that initial 1st upload.

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https://lemmy.world/u/a_non_monotonic_function posted on Feb 26, 2026 23:29
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If the spreadsheet is important it sounds like it would be part of the 4 GB that was backed up.

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https://lemmy.world/u/Joelk111 posted on Feb 26, 2026 23:32
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Yeah, people have done workarounds and stuff to get their entire NAS backed up but those seemed sketchy and bad when I looked into it.

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https://lemmy.world/u/Joelk111 posted on Feb 26, 2026 23:37
In reply to: https://lemmy.ca/comment/21920260

That NAS software company Linus (of Linus Tech Tips) funded has a feature for this planned I think.

An open source standalone implementation would be dope as hell. Sure, it’d mean you’d need to double your NAS capacity (as you’d have to provide enough storage as you use), but that’s way easier than building a second NAS and storing/maintaining it somewhere else or constantly paying for and managing a cloud backup.

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https://lemmy.sdf.org/u/GenderNeutralBro posted on Feb 27, 2026 00:06
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/post/43604046

You’ll think I’m crazy, and you’re not wrong, but: sneakernet.

Every time I run the numbers on cloud providers, I’m stuck with one conclusion: shit’s expensive. Way more expensive than the cost of a few hard drives when calculated over the life expectancy of those drives.

So I use hard drives. I periodically copy everything to external, encrypted drives. Then I put those drives in a safe place off-site.

On top of that, I run much leaner and more frequent backups of more dynamic and important data. I offload those smaller backups to cloud services. Over the years I’ve picked up a number of lifetime cloud storage subscriptions from not-too-shady companies, mostly from Black Friday sales. I’ve already gotten my money’s worth out of most of them and it doesn’t look like they’re going to fold anytime soon. There are a lot of shady companies out there so you should be skeptical when you see “lifetime” sales, but every now and then a legit deal pops up.

I will also confess that a lot of my data is not truly backed up at all. If it’s something I could realistically recreate or redownload, I don’t bother spending much of my own time and money backing it up unless it’s, like, really really important to me. Yes, it will be a pain in the ass when shit eventually hits the fan. It’s a calculated risk.

I am watching this thread with great interest, hoping to be swayed into something more modern and robust.

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https://lemmy.world/u/irmadlad posted on Feb 27, 2026 00:16
In reply to: https://lemmy.zip/comment/24903269

Wine or there is a Docker container that runs the Backblaze client.

https://lemmy.world/comment/22368188
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https://lemmy.world/u/tommij posted on Feb 27, 2026 00:19
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/post/43604046

Zfs send. Done

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https://lemmy.world/u/billwashere posted on Feb 27, 2026 00:46
In reply to: https://feddit.uk/comment/23494913

Well I personally have about 50tb, with one local copy and one remote copy but I’m very lucky to have access to old enterprise storage.

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https://midwest.social/u/dmention7 posted on Feb 27, 2026 01:53
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/post/43604046

Personally I deal with it by prioritizing the data.

I have about the same total size Unraid NAS as you, but the vast majority is downloaded or ripped media that would be annoying to replace, but not disastrous.

My personal photos, videos and other documents which are irreplaceable only make up a few TB, which is pretty managable to maintain true local and cloud backups of.

Not sure if that helps at all in your situation.

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https://lemmy.world/u/MightyLordJason posted on Feb 27, 2026 02:34
In reply to: https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/26264030

Sneakernet crew here too. My work offsite backup is in my backpack. Few times per week I do a sync which takes a few minutes and take it home again. (The sync archives old versions of files and the drive is encrypted.)

We tried several cloud-based solutions and they were all rather expensive or just plain hard to run to completion or both.

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https://lemmy.world/u/irmadlad posted on Feb 27, 2026 02:55
In reply to: https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/26264030

That is old-old-school.It works tho. You have to be a bit scheduled about it, to encompass current and future important data. IIRC AWS created a 100 petabyte drive and a truck to haul it around to basically do the same thiing, just in much larger amounts.

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https://lemmy.world/u/Mister_Hangman posted on Feb 27, 2026 02:56
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/comment/22366352

Oh shit.

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https://lemmy.world/u/Mister_Hangman posted on Feb 27, 2026 02:58
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/post/43604046

Definitely following this

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https://feddit.nl/u/quick_snail posted on Feb 27, 2026 04:46
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/post/43604046

Tape or backblaze

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https://feddit.nl/u/quick_snail posted on Feb 27, 2026 04:47
In reply to: https://lemmy.zip/comment/24903429

Don’t do this. It’s a god damn nightmare to delete

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https://lemmy.world/u/Burninator05 posted on Feb 27, 2026 05:21
In reply to: https://midwest.social/comment/22914618

I have data that I actually care about in RAIDZ1 array with a hot standby and it is syched to the cloud. The rest (the vast majority) is in a RAIDZ5. If I lose it, I “lose” it. Its recoverable if I decide I want it again.

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https://lemmy.world/u/raicon posted on Feb 27, 2026 07:21
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/comment/22360023

c2 seems expensive, I would go with hetzner storage box + restic

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https://lemmy.net.au/u/FreedomAdvocate posted on Feb 27, 2026 08:56
In reply to: https://sopuli.xyz/comment/22123197

Them having access to them is irrelevant if they’re encrypted. What’s the issue?

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https://sopuli.xyz/u/MentalEdge posted on Feb 27, 2026 09:02
In reply to: https://lemmy.net.au/comment/1280914

You can do that with B2. Just use an application to upload that encrypts as it uploads.

The only way to achieve the same on the backup plan (because you have to use theur desktop app) is to always have your entire system encrypted and never decrypt anything while the desktop app is performing a backup.

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https://lemmy.net.au/u/FreedomAdvocate posted on Feb 27, 2026 09:23
In reply to: https://sopuli.xyz/comment/22131591

That doesn’t mean it’s not encrypted on their servers…..

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https://sopuli.xyz/u/MentalEdge posted on Feb 27, 2026 09:38
In reply to: https://lemmy.net.au/comment/1280958

Also doesn’t mean it is. Or in a way where only you can decrypt it.

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https://programming.dev/u/randombullet posted on Feb 27, 2026 09:49
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/post/43604046

I have 3 main NASes

78TB (52TB usable) hot storage. ZFS1

160TB (120TB) warm storage ZFS2

48TB (24TB) off site. ZFS mirror

I rsync every day from hot to off site.

And once a month I turn on my warm storage and sync it.

Warm and hot storage is at the same location.

Off site storage is with a family friend who I trust. Data isn’t encrypted aside from in transit. That’s something else I’d like to mess with later.

Core vital data is sprinkled around different continents with about 10TB. I have 2 nodes in 2 countries for vital data. These are with family.

I think I have 5 total servers.

Cost is a lot obviously, but pieced together over several years.

The world will end before my data gets destroyed.

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https://lemmy.vg/u/osanna posted on Feb 27, 2026 10:12
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/comment/22367562

if you break their TOS, you’ll likely lose your data. So…. be careful.

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https://lemmy.world/u/PieMePlenty posted on Feb 27, 2026 13:07
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/post/43604046

Not all data is equal. I backup things i absolutely can not lose and yolo everything else. My love for this hobby does not extend to buying racks of hard drives.

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https://piefed.zip/u/INeedMana posted on Feb 27, 2026 13:26
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/post/43604046

I’ve been following this post since the first comment.

And I have just put together my own RAID1 1TB NAS. And I did not think that 1TB will serve me forever, more like “a good start”.

But the numbers I’ve been seeing in here… you guys are nuts 😆

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https://reddthat.com/u/lightnsfw posted on Feb 27, 2026 14:18
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/post/43604046

I don’t for media. I have 2 parity drives and that’s it. I’d like to do some kind of off site mirror but I haven’t had time to figure it out and buying enough storage to do that is expensive.

My actual data for like taxes and stuff is backed up to my server and backblaze.

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https://lemmy.world/u/Brkdncr posted on Feb 27, 2026 14:41
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/comment/22372445

It offers some other features like hybrid access to data,If my nas isn’t available I can access it from their cloud. There’s also some identity services.

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https://lemmy.world/u/Batman posted on Feb 27, 2026 14:52
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/post/43604046

I’ve started using k8up to save my photos and config to an encrypted restic repo in an s3 bucket. having a lot of trouble backing up my SQL DB though, not as easy as they make it sound.

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https://lemmy.world/u/modus posted on Feb 27, 2026 16:03
In reply to: https://programming.dev/comment/22422361

But would your data survive a nearby gamma-ray burst?

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https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/CucumberFetish posted on Feb 27, 2026 16:07
In reply to: https://lemmy.zip/comment/24903429

It is cheap as long as you don’t need to restore your data. Downloading data from S3 costs a lot. OP asked about 56TB of storage, for which data retrieval would cost about 4.7k

https://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/ under data transfer

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https://lemmy.world/u/Omgpwnies posted on Feb 27, 2026 16:42
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/comment/22379046

Amateurs not keeping at least one backup off-planet SMH

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https://sh.itjust.works/u/WhyJiffie posted on Feb 27, 2026 16:42
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/comment/22365890

better would be something that can just eat a zfs send stream, but I guess for an emergency it’s fine. but I would still want to encrypt everything somehow.

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https://sh.itjust.works/u/WhyJiffie posted on Feb 27, 2026 16:47
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/comment/22367630

such a system would need a strict time limit for restoration after the catastrophe. Otherwise leeching would be too easy.

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https://lemmy.world/u/Joelk111 posted on Feb 27, 2026 17:06
In reply to: https://sh.itjust.works/comment/24008609

That’s an incredibly good point. Bad actors are the worst. Some ideas:

  • Maybe you’d need to contribute your storage capacity +10% (or more), to account for your and other’s downtime during disasters.
  • A time limit after disasters would be necessary. It’s difficult to think of a proper time limit though, as even a month might not be enough time if your entire house burns down.
  • Maybe a payment system could be set up to where, if your server doesn’t ping for a week, your credit card is automatically charged (after pinging you with many emails). Sure, that’d suck, but it’d be better than loosing your data, and cheaper overall than paying for cloud backups. I’m not sure where that money would go. Maybe distributed to those who didn’t experience a disaster, or maybe to the software project, though that would mean people are profiting from a disaster. Maybe it could go to a charity of your choice or something.

Definitely a difficult problem to solve.

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https://lemmy.zip/u/zatanas posted on Feb 27, 2026 17:24
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/comment/22376068

True words of wisdom here from a self hosting perspective.

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https://lemmy.net.au/u/FreedomAdvocate posted on Feb 27, 2026 17:27
In reply to: https://sopuli.xyz/comment/22131912

It’s pretty clear actually - all data is encrypted at rest on their servers. They specifically say so.

https://www.backblaze.com/cloud-storage/security

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https://lemmy.zip/u/sefra1 posted on Feb 27, 2026 17:40
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/post/43604046

Well, first while raid is great, it’s not a replacement for backups. Raid is mostly useful if uptime is imperative, but does not protect against user errors, software errors, fs corruption, ransomware or a power surge killing the entire array.

Since uptime isn’t an issue on my home nas, instead of parity I simply have cold backups which (supposedly) I plug in from time to time to scrub the filesystems.

If a online drive dies I can simply restore it from backup and accept the downtime. For my anime I have simply one single backup, but or my most important files I have 2 backups just in case one fails. (Unfornately both onsite)

On the other hand, for a client of mine’s server where uptime is imperative, in addiction to raid I have 2 automatic daily backups (which ideally one should be offsite but isn’t, at least they are in different floors of the same building).

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https://sopuli.xyz/u/MentalEdge posted on Feb 27, 2026 17:59
In reply to: https://lemmy.net.au/comment/1282305

No shit. But encryption isn’t the same as zero-knowledge. Where by the time they handle the data in any way whatsoever, it’s already encrypted, by you.

Do you not know whay zero-knowledge means? Or are you so focused on my mentioning they’ll ship data to you physically that what I actually said went over your head?

From the page you just linked:

2. Implement encryption transparently so users don’t have to deal with it

3. Allow users to change their password without re-encrypting their data

4. In business environments, allow IT access to data without the user’s password

It’s not zero-knowledge!

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https://sh.itjust.works/u/WhyJiffie posted on Feb 27, 2026 18:21
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/comment/22380207

A time limit after disasters would be necessary. It’s difficult to think of a proper time limit though, as even a month might not be enough time if your entire house burns down.

and also accounting for low bandwidth connections.. whats more, some shitty providers even have monthly data caps

Maybe a payment system could be set up to where, if your server doesn’t ping for a week, your credit card is automatically charged (after pinging you with many emails).

yeah, that would be almost a necessary feature. being able to hold on to the backup when you really can’t restore.

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https://mander.xyz/u/Zetta posted on Feb 27, 2026 19:51
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/comment/22376068

Same, my unraid server is over 40 tb but I only have ~1.5 tb of critical data, being my immich photos and some files. I have an on site and off site raspberry pi with 4rb nvme SSD for nightly backups

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https://lemmy.net.au/u/FreedomAdvocate posted on Feb 27, 2026 20:05
In reply to: https://sopuli.xyz/comment/22139166

That’s really not an issue though.

https://lemmy.net.au/comment/1282772
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https://sopuli.xyz/u/MentalEdge posted on Feb 27, 2026 20:25
In reply to: https://lemmy.net.au/comment/1282772

Yeah. It’s almost like I literally said that.

Which some people are ok with, but not what most of us would want.

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https://lemmy.world/u/lepinkainen posted on Feb 27, 2026 20:27
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/post/43604046

A second offsite NAS (my old one) with the same capacity for the larger files

Backblaze B2 and a Hezner storage box for Really Important stuff.

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https://lemmy.world/u/modus posted on Feb 27, 2026 21:05
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/comment/22379753

I put a QNAP on the ISS. Expensive, but I sleep soundly.

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https://lemmy.zip/u/unit327 posted on Feb 27, 2026 22:45
In reply to: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/24659966

I’m aware, but I myself have < 3TB and if I actually need it I’ll be more happy to pay. It’s my “backup of last resort”, I keep other backups on site and infrequently on a portable HDD offsite.

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https://lemmy.zip/u/unit327 posted on Feb 27, 2026 22:48
In reply to: https://feddit.nl/comment/23543559

How so? I can easily just delete the whole s3 bucket.

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https://lemmy.net.au/u/FreedomAdvocate posted on Feb 27, 2026 23:21
In reply to: https://sopuli.xyz/comment/22141714

not what most of us want

Strongly disagree.

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https://sopuli.xyz/u/MentalEdge posted on Feb 27, 2026 23:27
In reply to: https://lemmy.net.au/comment/1283358

With what?

That self hosting admins on lemmy probably care about their backups not being accessible to third parties?

I don’t think you can claim that they wouldn’t.

You can claim that YOU don’t mind. But that’s a sample size of one.

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https://aussie.zone/u/trk posted on Feb 27, 2026 23:44
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/post/43604046

I have a 120TB unraid server at home, and a 40TB unraid server at work. Both use 2 x parity disks.

The critical work stuff backs up to home, and the critical home stuff backs up to work.

The media is disposable.

Both servers then back up to Crashplan on separate accounts - work uses the Australian server on a business account, home used the US server on a personal account.

I figure I should be safe unless Australia and the US are nuked simultaneously…. At which point my data integrity is probably not the most pressing issue.

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https://lemmy.net.au/u/FreedomAdvocate posted on Feb 27, 2026 23:46
In reply to: https://sopuli.xyz/comment/22144563

Define “accessible” here. They’re encrypted …..

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https://sh.itjust.works/u/ShawiniganHandshake posted on Feb 27, 2026 23:47
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/post/43604046

For me, I only back up data I can’t replace, which is a small subset of the capacity of my NAS. Personal data like photos, password manager databases, personal documents, etc. get locally encrypted, then synced to a cloud storage provider. I have my encryption keys stored in a location that’s automatically synced to various personal devices and one off-site location maintained by a trusted party. I have the backups and encryption key sync configured to keep n old versions of the files (where the value of n depends on how critical the file is).

Incremental synchronization really keeps the bandwidth and storage costs down and the amount of data I am backing up makes file level backup a very reasonable option.

If I wanted to back up everything, I would set up a second system off-site and run backups over a secure tunnel.

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https://sopuli.xyz/u/MentalEdge posted on Feb 28, 2026 00:21
In reply to: https://lemmy.net.au/comment/1283468

Sure they can. How else do they enable providing access to the content without the user password?

The data is secured against unauthorized access, but unlike zero-knowledge setups where the chain of custody is fully within user control, the user is not the only one authorized. And even if you are supposed to be, you cannot ensure that you actually are.

OF-FUCKING-COURSE the physical drives are encrypted. That’s how you prevent unauthorized physical access.

But encryption is not some kind of magic thing that just automatically means anyone who shouldn’t have access to the data, don’t.

For that to actually be the case, you need solid opsec and known chain of custody. Ways of doing things that means the data stays encrypted end-to-end.

The personal backup plan doesn’t have that.

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https://programming.dev/u/Rooster326 posted on Feb 28, 2026 01:35
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/comment/22383541

Okay Mr. Money Bags

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https://feddit.nl/u/quick_snail posted on Feb 28, 2026 03:57
In reply to: https://lemmy.zip/comment/24925193

Maybe I’m thinking of glacier. It took months trying to delete that.

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https://lemmy.world/u/JaddedFauceet posted on Feb 28, 2026 14:56
In reply to: https://aussie.zone/comment/21660570

why is your work stuff at home and why is your personal stuff at work ಠ_ಠ

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https://lemmy.world/u/lepinkainen posted on Feb 28, 2026 20:29
In reply to: https://programming.dev/comment/22436539

It’s literally a Raspberry pi 3B+ and a USB hard drive in a plastic storage box at my parents house 😅

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https://lemmy.world/u/NekoKoneko posted on Feb 28, 2026 22:33
In reply to: https://feddit.uk/comment/23495075

Sorry. Shortly after posting this and the initial QA I left for a trip.

I could definitely wait those time periods for a first backup and a restore, since I assume it’ll be a once in 10 year at worst situation. Data changes after the first upload should be show enough to keep up.

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https://lemmy.net.au/u/FreedomAdvocate posted on Feb 28, 2026 22:35
In reply to: https://sopuli.xyz/comment/22145507

Where do they provide ace to the content without the user password?

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https://aussie.zone/u/trk posted on Feb 28, 2026 22:45
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/comment/22396048

Yeah I guess it probably makes more sense when it’s my business…. Maybe not if you’re an employee at some corporate randomly hosting backups of your dog photos.

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https://sopuli.xyz/u/MentalEdge posted on Feb 28, 2026 22:54
In reply to: https://lemmy.net.au/comment/1287028

Explain to me how they couldn’t. Without simply stating “it’s encrypted”.

On the B2 plan you can use open source solutions like Kopia to KNOW that data is encrypted on your system with keys only you have, before Backblaze ever sees it.

Explain to me, how the personal plan using their closed source application achieves the same.

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https://lemmy.world/u/clif posted on Feb 28, 2026 23:39
In reply to: https://aussie.zone/comment/21676974

I dunno. At a big company they probably won’t notice an extra TB of storage cost… So long as you’re discrete with the transfers.

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https://lemmy.net.au/u/FreedomAdvocate posted on Mar 2, 2026 06:02
In reply to: https://sopuli.xyz/comment/22162671

So your whole point is that you shouldn’t trust one of the biggest cloud backup companies on the planet when they say that your data is encrypted, with no proof that they’re telling lies………..and you’re asking me to prove that they’re telling the truth?

The onus is on you to prove that they’re telling lies, not on me to prove what they say is true.

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https://sopuli.xyz/u/MentalEdge posted on Mar 2, 2026 06:15
In reply to: https://lemmy.net.au/comment/1291278

No.

I’m saying 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% ≠ 100%

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https://feddit.uk/u/Cyber posted on Mar 2, 2026 06:54
In reply to: https://lemmy.world/comment/22403691

No worries, I don’t have a time limit on responses 😉

But… I took somethong like ~3 days to get an initial baxkup done.

Then ~3 years later I was at a different provider doing the same thing.

What I did do differently was to split the data into different backup pools (ie photos, music, work, etc) rather than 1 monolithic pool… that’ll make a difference.

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https://lemmy.world/u/NekoKoneko posted on Mar 2, 2026 09:50
In reply to: https://feddit.uk/comment/23566179

That does make sense - also matches how I have currently sperated files so it’s a valuable idea. Thanks!

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https://lemmy.net.au/u/FreedomAdvocate posted on Mar 2, 2026 12:40
In reply to: https://sopuli.xyz/comment/22185210

So being encrypted before transmission and at rest isn’t enough simply because someone at backblaze can send the encrypted files out to you on a HDD……..

lol

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