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Embrace, enhance, extend

I had to install Steam through the command line […] Steam is available in Linux Mint’s default repository, so I could get it with a quick “sudo apt-get install steam” in the terminal.

I’ve never used Mint before; does it not come with a graphical app store?

And man, I love how so many articles from major websites mentioning Windows 11 are actually about how to avoid it altogether. :D

Mint does have a graphical app store. Steam also has a .deb package on their website to download, which opens by default in the GUI installer when you double click it. Using the CLI is fine, but it’s definitely not necessary.

It does. I installed Steam through the software manager just fine.

Cool, that makes sense. Linux Mint has a reputation for user friendliness, it’s got to have one. The author of this article must have missed it.

jesus that’s a good laptop you could put bazzite on that

If they’re like many of us, they probably just have apt/yum/pacman-brain and didn’t really think about what’s friendly to most people.

It’s great to see such an article in The Verge, of course. Unreservedly.

But such articles are legion, and Thinkpads are (almost) always good with Linux. You can install Linux on almost any laptop out there.

I’ve never used Mint before; does it not come with a graphical app store?

It does, but I think even slightly experienced Linux users will just turn to the CLI for consistency and because it’s easier to explain in steps to other people. But he should have mentioned the GUI for new users, agreed.

I’m thinking of replacing Chrome OS on an older Chromebook (Acer CB-314) that’s been slowing down a lot. I don’t know what Google is doing but it feels like planned obsolescence. It’s becoming unresponsive even for regular web browsing and VOD. Based on some online guides I think I need to open the device to flip a hardware switch that makes the firmware write protected, so I need to convince my significant other to let me do it, because it’s her laptop, but she keeps complaining :)

I was thinking of putting Mint on it, I want it to be super simple.

I would also consider some atomic distro so she can’t break it :) Maybe Fedora Silverblue or something like that.

Silverblue is what I’m putting on my partner’s older PC, the fact that it atomic is a big plus-point.

Be warned though, some less common non-cli packages are more difficult to install. If your SO needs something along those lines, mint may be better.

For example, nordVPN has a nice GUI interface, but it has no appimage or flatpak, so it won’t work on silverblue without modifying the ostree. That’s not a good idea, so on my (bazzite) PC I have installed a simple openVPN GUI package, and set it up to use our nordVPN account. It works fine, but it’s not a pretty map-based interface, just a giant list of servers.

I am aware of the limitations. She is a really BASIC user. Just uses the web browser (Chrome, because it’s a Chrome OS, well — I’ll switch her to Firefox and she won’t notice ;) ), she surfs the net, watches YT and VOD (I know the DRM limitations, again, not an issue with her, she’s perfectly happy with 720p in a window) and chats Facebook Messenger (sadly). I think an atomic distro can do all that out of the box and there’s nothing to install that’s not a web app or a Flatpak.

Is rpm-ostree how you get the other packages? I don’t know much about it apart from what’s on Fedora’s website, my understanding is it modifies the local system image so whatever you install from RPM becomes part of it. But, again, she won’t need it. She’s the compete opposite of a power user.

I grabbed a few all-in-one desktops from an office that was upgrading to Windows 11.

I loaded it up with a nice 1TB retroarch image with bunch of ROMs and gave them to the nieces and nephews.

Pre-windows 11 hardware is great for repurposing with Linux, there’s just so much available thanks to Microsoft.

7th gen Intel with integrated graphics isnt going to be able to do much. If you’re looking for something exclusively for gaming then a secondhand Retroid Pocket 5 console (android handheld) is going to do much better for even less money than this.

Yes, that’s exactly how RPM works. it’s supposed to be a last resort if options like distrobox or homebrew can’t deliver what you need. It can break stuff if you are not careful.

Anyway, then I’d definitely go with silverblue.

You can install local RPM files, but you would have to manually update them (by uninstalling the old and installing the new) with each update.

I use Mullvad on Bazzite, and have had no issue just installing the app using rpm-ostree. Works just fine.

Bazzite isn’t exclusively for gaming

I wholeheartedly agree!
I installed Bazzite because I wanted an easy solution for my laptop with Nvidia GPU - now it’s my daily driver and gaming is only a fraction of its job.

For what it’s worth, I’ve never had an RPM install break anything on Silverblue, and I fuck with it mercilessly at times.

I’ll never understand why people use apt-get for anything other than scripting, or specialized commands when programmers have put in real effort to make apt easy.

The author could have saved 4 keystrokes! Saving keystrokes is the entire point of Linux! Just look at how abbreviated the root folder naming scheme is. It took years of effort to find the perfect abbreviations and directory structure to minimize keystroke. The loss of legibility and discoverability might suck, but it’s worth it. And this author is over here wasting keyboard fuel on “-get”. smh

I’ve done the hardware mod on an older chromebook and it’s about the least risky mod you could possibly do. And it looks like your model just requires disconnecting the internal battery cable temporarily which is similarly easy to the method I needed (removing a screw).

Probably a little bit of risk from possibly fragile connectors, but that should be okay if you take care.

What did you put on your Chromebook instead of Chrome OS?

Probably a little bit of risk from possibly fragile connectors, but that should be okay if you take care.

I told her I will buy her a new laptop if I screw up :D Even with that risk I’d like to try.

The other day I put debian on my old dell and move my servarr apps there. Now I have a spare Linux set up box I don’t know what to do with. Old laptops are nice but you only need so many.

Thanks for sharing. I’m too paranoid, as I have very little free time to fix stuff if it breaks. Still good to know.

That’s the beauty of it, though. If it breaks, you just roll back to the previous layer and carry on like nothing happened. Totally get where you’re coming from though.